***Have read all of Visions, though not all at once as I couldn’t stomach it. It works very well for white nationalism, imo.
It is North Korea*** iirc that invades the US when the president calls in UN troops to deal with the crisis created by massive earthquakes. It turns the Gospel into a place of fear rather than peace. It encourages division under the guise of caring about people. What bothers me about it is its appeal creates a smug, I know the secret, self righteous in group mentality. I get the desire to understand the mysteries very well…Though this comes across like a potato chip and McDonald’s chicken nugget version rather than meat and potatoes. Aren’t age and experience supposed to bring a measure of wisdom? What bothered me about the “Visions of Glory” phenomenon is that supposedly mature and seasoned Church members were being taken in by it. Sometimes, the quiet, gossipy stuff can be more harmful in its subtlety and insidiousness than the loud and bombastic. That would be an interesting literature study, I am wondering if it shifted the way NDE hedge prophets tell their stories now. I think that was the biggest appeal of Visions as opposed to other similar NDE books, the inside, celebrity knowledge feel to it. Then there was the weird celebrity insider vibe to it, Spencer was to be given the office next to Jesus’ office in the temple, for example. Visions was at least quiet, no pictures, lol, though there was definitely a gossipy, voyeuristic quality to it…he was reveling in the description of his doctor’s office where he was allegedly dumped rather after having a massive heart attack or something that had all the staff panicking around him…who then left him unattended in an office…the furniture was complaining about the adultery of his doctor and a nurse, iirc…I am going off of memory and so don’t assume this is accurate, I think I finally threw away the copy I had given me this April as no one had asked about it in ages, lol. To me it is just ugly and loud…in appearance and tone, I feel like I am at a football game stuck in a group of out of town over the top rabid fans intend on beating down the locals. I would tend to agree, except it may be more appealing to the younger crowd who loves memes. I’m actually more worried about “Visions of Glory” and the Julie Rowe sort of stuff gaining a following among our people than I am about the DezNat movement. Maybe it’s because I’ve actually seen “Visions of Glory” penetrating my circle of acquaintances not so, thus far, with DezNat. And “Visions of Glory” gained some respect - albeit undeserved - among some in our mainstream. I doubt Visions would have been a hit without Pontius pushing it (he was the transcriber, he didn’t have the visions). Pontius was already a successful writer at that point, he wasn’t always so off kilter, we had some of his earlier stuff at FAIR before Visions showed up. I don’t remember how long, but Visions was published in 2012.
Also disturbing is her book was most likely successful because of the previous success of Visions of Glory by Pontius and ‘Spencer’. I don’t have a clue how you could find out how long those books were bestsellers….maybe contact the LDS Booksellers Association?Ĭhad Daybell told her what to write more or less from the way she described it and she just borrowed ideas from everyone else getting attention in the AVOW group, but yeah, it is disturbing. The spurious materials memo was issued in August 2015, so her top or close to popularity lasted at least a year it would seem. Spencer never wrote anything himself, at least like Visions and Pontius died not long after it got popular, which left the hole that Daybell filled with Rowe. Her second book was published the same year, Oct 2014 Iirc, when she wrote her second book it had started going down, so Daybell pushed her to produce another which was mostly repetition from what I heard. I don’t think her book popularity lasted as long.
I don’t remember how long it was up there, but I do remember being surprised at its staying power Visions was published in 2012. I find it disturbing that a book by a kook would be “the top seller in the Mormon market.” How long did it occupy that spot?Ĭhad Daybell told her what to write more or less from the way she described it and she just borrowed ideas from everyone else getting attention in the AVOW group, but yeah, it is disturbing.
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